A ‘Dumb’ Civil War And Americans

August 16, 2023

Hot and even more hot this noonish nour Wednesday here in California’s Central Valley — outside the air is heavy and feels like you’ve just stepped into some kind of odd, surreal oil painting.
Art of the weather.

A most delectable fable tale seen this morning:

And of that conflict between reality and the bubble that comes with information/facts isolation as being confined in a single news outlet of lies and just straight-up bullshit is the end result:

Although it’s pretty well known that polls this far away from an election — almost a year-and-a-half from November 2024 — may seem insignificant, it does reveal how close this ugly shit of ‘dumb civil war‘ really be — via AP-NORC this morning:

About half of adults say Donald Trump acted illegally in his alleged attempt to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia and 54% think his actions following his loss in the 2020 presidential election threatened democracy.

Half of the public also consider Trump’s actions concerning the classified documents found at his Florida home as illegal. Nearly half feel he acted illegally during the events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. The public is less inclined to say he acted illegally in the case about covering up hush money payments to a woman who said she had an affair with him: 34% say he acted illegally in that case, while 38% think his actions were unethical but not illegal. The poll was completed before the August 14, 2023 indictment from a Georgia grand jury was announced.

Views about the legality of Trump’s actions in the pending criminal cases remain highly correlated with political affiliations. A large majority of Democrats think Trump’s actions regarding the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago and allegations about his behavior following his loss in the 2020 election to be criminal. And more than half also say that about the hush money payments case. Republicans are more inclined to say the former president did nothing wrong in these cases, or at worse behaved unethically. Less than 20% of Republicans consider Trump’s actions illegal in any of the four cases.


Eighty-five percent of Democrats say Trump’s activities following the 2020 election were a threat to democracy. Among Republicans, 43% say Trump was doing more to defend democracy and 34% say his actions had no effect on democracy.

Seventy-three percent of the public are paying at least some attention to news about Trump’s indictment for his actions on January 6, 2021. Similar results were found in AP-NORC surveys conducted in April, after Trump was indicted in New York for making hush money payments during his 2016 campaign, and in June, after he was indicted in the case concerning classified documents at his Florida home.

The views of most Republicans do not appear to be affected by Trump’s legal problems. Seventy percent have a favorable opinion of him. Most Republicans also have a favorable opinion of Ron DeSantis. But they are divided when it comes Mike Pence. Forty-one percent have a favorable view of the former vice president, while 42% have a negative opinion.

In addition, 63% of Republicans want Trump to run for reelection, and 74% would support him if he were the Republican nominee. In comparison, only 45% of Democrats want Joe Biden to run for reelection, but 82% would support him if he were the Democratic nominee.

Close, but with a majority still conscious of reality. However, there’s a huge, shitload of assholes out there.

Polls of shit, or not, yet once again here we are…

(Illustration out front is of a New York state high-school student exhibit: ‘The piece was displayed during student-driven art show at Shenendehowa High School. It consisted of at least 12 identical black-and-white pictures of Donald Trump. There was also a sign above the pictures that read, “Draw on Me.” Using markers from the art classroom, Isome students opted to scribble critical messages and profanities on the pictures‘ — and found here.)


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